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 Post subject: Re: Knowing vs. Intuition
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:13 pm 
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Ghost of Elvis wrote:
Does this relate to the idea that cold is finite, where heat is infinite?

Hell is contraction (cold), also limited; Heaven is expansion (heat), and without limits.

What that means is that "cold" doesn't exist save as a relative, but never absolute, absence of heat.

Does any one thing exist without reference to another?


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Ghost of Elvis wrote:
spacetime is one thing, not two.

Are you sure it isn't NOthing?

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Ghost of Elvis wrote:
spacetime is one thing, not two.


Space is the absence of things, or no things (positive potential or probability)... time is a measurement of the duration of things.

Moving past the obvious paradox that you can't measure the duration of things where things don't exist, one COULD derive...

Spacetime would then be the measurement of the duration of 'no-thing' and timespace would be the measurement of space (probability) within a certain time frame.

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Ghost of Elvis wrote:
Does this relate to the idea that cold is finite, where heat is infinite?

Hell is contraction (cold), also limited; Heaven is expansion (heat), and without limits.

What that means is that "cold" doesn't exist save as a relative, but never absolute, absence of heat.


It's interesting what heat and cold actually are to the unconscious. Cold is contraction, but it is also order, structure and clarity. And heat is also passion, disorder, destruction. In zen, cold is often a metaphor of awakening - the cold air of the mountaintop, the man drinking water who knows in himself how cool it is. And in ordinary language, there is "crystalline clarity" and the "flames of passion". And then heat is flow and energy, while cold is stasis, but cold is also superconductivity, which is the lack of resistance to the flow of energy. And finally, expansion is also separation, and contraction is also synthesis. Pretty confusing shit. Just free associating here, don't know what it means. But gnosis has had an icy quality to it for me.

Also it seems like cooling and condensation has been on the bill for the gaian enterprise. The earth has gone from an extremely hot state of molten disorder to a much cooler state of much greater density and complexity and is now apparently sprouting some kind of low-temperature neurological circuit grid through its mammallian appendages.


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If infinity begins somewhere but is neverending then it is more of a 'one way' operation.

Even when considering time...

Say something moves infinitely into the past as well as infinitely into the future there is is still a point of origination..

as far as I understand it.

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Magari wrote:
Say something moves infinitely into the past as well as infinitely into the future there is is still a point of origination...

It is the point of perception - but then how do you know it isn't your consciousness creating the illusion that time is linear?

A point of consciousness is a limited perspective to view the universe from.

If every point of consciousness is a point at the center of an infinite expanse of space/time how could anything see further than its immediate range of perception?

Just as the graph of a tangent function creates spikes in the continuom at regular intervals where variables approach infinity, consciousness assigns an approximation to normalize its bandwidth.
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The ‘hard swallow’ built into science is this business about the Big Bang. … This is the notion that the universe, for no reason, sprang from nothing in a single instant. … Notice that this is the limit test for credulity. . . . It’s the limit case for likelihood. -Terence Mckenna


I'm still wondering about this "knowing" that we can, or should, stay in. Are we talking about a bodily knowing? This sounds a lot like intuition to me, and the body is the source of those things (thoughts, feelings, etc.) that are said to take us out of our knowing. If it is a knowing of "you-as-consciousness," this seems to me to imply something that can exist separate from the body. Is it a "light body" knowing perhaps, that we should develop and maintain in order to avoid folly?


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