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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:07 am 
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A long time ago, I was associated with someone named Laura Knight Jadczyk (probably misspelled). She allegedly channeled these beings called the Cassiopaeans. I was in a group where we discussed the channeled material, and I drove out and spent some time w her and her husband in Florida.

At that time, I had not yet taken any psychedelics. I had this grand scheme to take psychedelics with a group of like-minded people and try to contact a higher being who could counsel us on our purpose here on earth. That particular plan never came about for various reasons, not the least of which being that the person in the psychedelic state is not the same person in the normal state, at least as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, I was on a forum once and brought up this whole subject of channeling with higher spirits, and I received a very lengthy response from someone calling themselves "Unbeliever", and I thought his/her response was very profound so I kept a copy of it over all these years. It occurred to me that you guys might be interested in reading it, so here goes:

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"Our relationship with the invisible is always one of awe because of our origin and its link to the invisible. This creates a psychological predisposition to lend the invisible credence.

We really want to believe that what the invisible says is ‘true’ because we long for the invisible even though we are afraid of it, and the few and rare ‘conscious’ opportunities to tap into what we appriori have declared to be ‘true’ and close to the source of a knowledge that is derived from a necessarily all knowing source.

All this to get an additional impression of security relative to our destiny and always falling in the trap of arrogance for this contact with the invisible gives the channeler the impression of being ‘chosen’ of being ‘special’.

Effectively, the channel is always attuned to a vibration that is in line with it. The resonance of the channel is what allows a quality of thought to be attributed to the ego. You can only connect with your radio to waves that it is already capable of receiving. That radio of course will have to evolve over time but that is an individual evolutionary process, not a group process.

This means that the experience of channeling will be specific to the vibration of the channeler and will not be universal at all.

It also goes the other way.

What we like to call higher intelligences will contact those capable of receiving their energy and not burn up in the process. They will select their channel based on its ability to contain the energy which is fundamental if the information is not to be subjected to interpretation.

In the case of the Cassiopaean, what interpretations of whatever the message, plus their use of it, already betrays the signature of the quality of the intelligence of whatever entities are involved.

The ego already is a channel, unknowingly but nonetheless, who’s lack of fixed reality brings him to perpetually identify to its environment and give himself an impression of his position relative to the world.

The ego, who is not centric because it has not integrated the energy of its reality, seeks to acquire power and authority by association, making himself egocentric in the process. This makes the ego seek the power of magic when it is not inhibited towards the invisible.

Unless the ego has a high level of centricity (not egocentricity) it is automatically susceptible to the lure of power and authority over his peers that the invisible will readily offer. Unless the ego is psychically incorruptible, it is prone to internal manipulation.

Imagine that if men can lie to you what the invisible can do.

The whole psychological process of the ego is unconscious channeling.

Not being conscious of this state, the ego will tend to seek communication via all kinds of artificial mechanisms such as the ouija board, cards, crystal balls, etc. This effectively conceals the reality of the nature of the mind and to rationalize our lives using empirical assumptions that always deny or disfigure this reality.

Consider this. Psychology attributes the largest quality of the mind to the effect of a so called collective unconscious and its subtle but powerful action on it. Everybody accepts this as a fact without considering that these forces, such as a ‘collective unconscious’ already are the signature of a particular invisible and that it is in constant interaction with the ego, forcing him within a collective state of consciousness that makes it extremely difficult to establish one’s own reality away from influences.

The ego is a channel and it automatically identifies to the energies that flow through the channel. Until it has established a contact with its own reality, the ego will remain the object of manipulations and will believe to be right from the impressions it gets from the interaction of astral energies and itself.

Even the desire to channel is the result of the interaction of these energies and the would be channeler. In that sense, the channeler is indeed a chosen one but that does not establish the forces behind the veil as ‘higher’ in terms of intelligence.

It is already difficult for us to separate between our impression of ourselves and what energy goes through our channel. That very impression already is the result of the interaction of those energies and the ego. The thought process itself is part of this psychological architecture to which we identify.

We have a hard time making the difference between us and the energy that continually goes through that channel. Imagine now connecting to another entity, allowing it to take over not only the channel but the mechanical body to write stuff with a ouija board.

The channeler can then even less differentiate between his reality and that of energies that are there to influence him.

Because of this, there is only one acceptable solution and that is not to believe.

Not believing does not mean claiming falsehood, unless one knows for real of course, but simply not believing.

This is the only way to keep composure, to remain objective, when faced with such a vast field of inexperience as that of the invisible.

Of course, the soul and other aspects of our unconscious intelligence already have experience with the invisible since they are the invisible.

It is the ego that is unaware of its relationship with the invisible that creates problem. Especially due to the fact that the ego is more the result of the intersection of our diluted intelligence with the soul’s memory. At death, the soul and the spirit (or intelligence) part and each goes its own way, forcing the ego into a loss of consciousness mode.

Channeling is an invitation to possession, especially when used the way the Cassiopaeans have elected for lack of better mean. It opens the door to an already predefined institution of fate masters that already know who will believe and who will have already adopted another psychological paradigm as a means of explaining their reality away.

Because of all the above, anything that comes in the Cassiopaeans’ transcripts must be taken with a brick of salt.

The ouija board already is a mechanism that is rather dangerous in itself because of the doors it opens within the psychic field.

When you open a door to a stranger, you must already know that you are the master of that door and that you can close and open it at will. If not, the energies that come with the source of the transmission will permeate the egoic channel and relate an altered impression of self, an altered impression of reason.

The only real and absolute protection of the ego in the exercise of channeling is the absolute centricity that stems from its own reality being grounded in a consciousness that does not partake to the collective unconscious.

In other words, the ego must be in position to know, not in position to believe. The value of the beliefs is already inked into the fabric of the seeker and all he will find is what he wanted to find.

This is no different than other fields of competence that are common in the material world.

Scientists regularly, systematically, are looking for a solution that fits with their theories. The general public when confronted with difficulties already is looking for solutions that conform with their ideas of correctness. Every individual already has in ingrained impression of what they desire even if they do not make any difference between desires and needs. This leads without fault to a predestined location that is already defined in the life plan of an individual, defeating any concept of free will, making complete automatons of what we identify to in our occult admission to insignificance.

So, how could one assume that these transcripts are the result of a higher intelligence?

Based on the egoic predilection to believe a form that has a vibration that is perfectly adapted to its type of consciousness, which in turn is attuned to its particular need for experience, be it the temporal death of its capacity for intelligence?

The mechanics of channeling are a direct product of the ego being a channel already and do not require any particular exercise or method to be achieved.

Unfortunately, until the ego has realized that it’s impression of itself is the result of that channeling it will remain subjected to the winds and whims of the invisible who will let it believe that if it wants, it can be what it wants, just by wishing it or by association.

Furthermore, the quality of consciousness cannot be dissociated from acts. You shall know them by their fruits. That is pretty clear and cannot be questioned.

The karmic link between the channeler and the entity is what will define the content of the message. In all cases, it will mean that the message is a lie because of the karmic relationship with the dead that requires one to become the vector of the incarnate’s life plan, in the sense that it coaches the incarnate into following a path that was already established for the benefit of the spiritual evolution of the soul but against the capacity of an individual to break his karmic reincarnation cycle.

There is a universal law that you could call the ‘cosmic lie’ that applies to all psychological races and even beyond to all races that have not fully integrated their consciousness, cutting it from influences that always tend to steer it.

Even some so called ‘advanced races’ have a veil to contend with that prevents them from knowing but rather makes them assume of what is right or not.

These will knowingly use their ability to penetrate the local astral consciousness to interfere with humanity and steer some of its members, because of course not all may fall, to a certain conceptualization of reality.

This conceptualization will always be in view of a future use. To bring them to conform to a certain future condition.

What I say to this is that you should never ever believe. You must know. Until you know, you must protect your integrity by first learning to hate the invisible and to instead use the energy of love towards your peers, the living.

If you love the invisible, they will use that love against you and through you against others.

If you have the consciousness capable of containing the energy of a really superior intelligence, then know that this will come from within, never from a ouija board, and in a totally individual way, never ever from a group movement.

Super human source of communication in that sense is just an impression projected from our own inept condition. We are thirsting too much for these alleged ‘higher intelligences’ and automatically are putting ourselves at the mercy of rather low ball dead consciousnesses that know how to tap into the channel and use it to forge altered civilization trends, even via the thought process.

The motivation to acquire knowledge is the equivalent of the motivation to acquire power. The one who knows does not seek knowledge, is not even interested in knowledge.

Seeking knowledge, especially occult knowledge, is an occult trap. It is the way of the would be magician.

The invisible will not explain yourself to you outside of a mechanism of complete destruction of the impression of self. If the goal is the augmentation of the impression of knowing, they will make damn sure that you make an ass of yourself until you realize that there is nothing to know in the term of occult knowledge but that everything is to be defined, once there is a mind free from influence, human and invisible.

There is only one valid rule, to not believe. Believing does not equate knowing. The search for occult advantages is the equivalent of magic and magicians will not be welcomed for their quest is for one of power and domination to palliate to their lack of reality.

Selling one’s soul to the devil is exactly that, trading the love for the invisible against the love for our peers.

A greater reality it may indeed be but like children, before we open the door to world experiences, we need to at least know that once the door opened, we are alone to face what lays behind and that no group can protect us from our own experiential destiny.

Even in the concept of well meaning there already is an impression of conditioning, or rather even an impression of authoritarianism that seeks to impress upon other the subtle illusion of truth, the truth of the ‘higher entity’ who is coming to save us, riding on a thought wave, without explaining that thoughts proceed from a telepathic process that is intercepted by the dead, the astral, to prevent the light from the source of man from escaping in order to insure the reflexive nature of the human, in order to insure that it does not go back to its source.

This one statement alone ‘riding thought waves’ is an extreme hint at the fraud, known or not, of the reality behind the scripts.

A really conscious entity does not think, it communicates. The thought process is the necessary product of an astral consciousness that has not been freed from its karmic debt simply because it has not yet been infused with the will to integrate its own energy instead of always seeking outside of its own consciousness for a messenger, for a helper, that would save him from his ineptitudes and predicaments.

Like for a computer, a program is not conscious but only reacts.

Astral consciousness that results from the reflection of egoic impressions or thoughts that become how the ego feels itself as a thinking entity, paired with the amplified emotional values necessarily attached to those impressions to further reflect a polarized consciousness that stems from having eaten of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, symbolically, is a program and has nothing to do, else than provide experimental fields that the ego is forced to undertake because he ‘thinks’ its next move.

Until we have put our finger on what makes us a programmed and reactive entity, incapable of real will, or real intelligence and or real love, incapable of actual action but always in reaction to stimulus and always seeking stimulus, we cannot afford to believe. Especially not those that would have us procrastinate intellectually because they have the solution.

The only protection you have is to never believe.

I know I most likely did not answer directly to your comments but got this out more by rebounds.

I feel this to be fundamental though, the need to know, not to believe, especially when dealing with the invisible."

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There is also a further response from him, so if you guys are interested in reading more let me know.

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 Post subject: Re: Channeling
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:22 am 
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this is an excellent analysis, and very timely too; thanks Brandon. The IF is now yours to roam! :skyperock:

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 Post subject: Re: Channeling
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This was very interesting, I for one would love to read more of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Channeling
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Bottle Cap wrote:
This was very interesting, I for one would love to read more of it.


Ok, well after that response I can't remember exactly what I replied to him, but it was something along the lines of "I feel that channeling will ease my suffering here on earth". Here is how he responded to that:

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"Your suffering, if it is not caused by external pressures or existential problems, may very well be caused by a high level of sensitivity. Often, people who do have a higher sensitivity will tend to take the invisible as a likely part of their life puzzle. They also are the ones who will be looking for answers where others don’t even consider that there is any relevant question other than those of their material survival and prosperity.

The down side of this is that this sensitivity is also a thinning of the veil between psychic and physical mentation.

What I mean by this is that the thinner wall, at least as perceived by the ego, between his physical condition and his psychic reality, has for consequence an opening of the mind for the invisible.

We have been taught for eons that we were small creatures of the invisible and that all knowledge was to be found in the invisible. Secret societies and occult schools have always brought forward the idea that the invisible was the seat of the great archives and that of the definition of the condition of humanity and its components, the individual.

Even though in a sense this may be so, it does not mean that the invisible found outside of the domain of your own mind has any fiefdom over your destiny other than the psychic manipulation that it may effect upon it because of our ignorance, which they would maintain against any chance of the individual to break free from their domination, but not because of our lack of intelligence, at least to those evolved enough to have the capacity for discernment rather than the capacity to prove themselves right against opposing views.

Hoping that channeling would ease the pain is wanting to believe that channeling will offer the answer. The danger here is wanting it to be the solution, which predisposes to believe into what will be received.

What will be received will already be adapted to the wanting to create a form that will subjugate the ego.

The seeker always finds what he is looking for because the invisible will always provide a form that comforts the ego in its impression of being right.

So, the only possibility for the ego to be shielded from the assaults of the invisible and its lies is to have realized the authority over the invisible.

In other words, it is in the realization that the living, the incarnate, has ascendancy over the dead and therefore has the power to command the dead to speak the truth.

Even this ascendancy must eventually allow the integral incarnate to command any force in the invisible to speak the truth.

Lies are a Luciferian condition of consciousness. All aspects of universal reality that use lies and deceit are Luciferian in reality.

It is only in the eventual realization of the non Luciferian aspects of human reality that we can come to confront the invisible on its own turf and check its intrinsic propensity to dominate by always offering what one already wanted to hear of believe.

This is the politics of the invisible, the one force that has been shaping the destiny of human civilizations by its ability to infiltrate the mind of each individual via a parasitic function.

So long as this condition persist, we will easily vibrate favorably to suggestions that are not aimed at our reality but that are adapted to our programmed preferences.

What we need is to become aware of that parasitic infiltration of the mind, which in itself is the seed of its disabling.

By disabling the hold that the invisible exerts over the mind, the psychic space that it occupied becomes freed and can then be filled with the non Luciferian counterpart of the incarnate, making it ipso facto incorruptible from manipulations and lies and granting it conscious ascendancy over a condition that forced him to die and recycle in a seemingly endless karmic cycle.

The invisible without will never give us anything that would lead to our disenfranchisement from their clutch, quite the contrary.

The more advanced, the subtler the illusion, the more we will take it for reality. That is until we are real ourselves.

If you open that door, you must know that the existential nightmare could become a psychic nightmare.

Then again, it may also be your own predestined experience to confront it and learn, know for yourself.

Each person’s experience is his own and is perfectly adapted to his own subtle psychic and mental architecture that itself is also perfectly adapted to its need for fine tuning.

Good wind in your quest."

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 Post subject: Re: Channeling
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Brand,
Thanks for the channeling post.
What was your impression of LKMJ? She strikes me as a
contemporary Madame Blavatsky, but it's much harder
to maintain the mystery these days because people can
check your sources rather quickly. To me, most of her
information seems to be taken from the Pleiadean channels,
much of which is simply wrong (especially the astronomy
and physics).
LKMJ also seems to be very vindictive to those who attempt
to leave the Cassopaean group and dissent.

http://www.cassiopaeacult.com/who-are-the-cassiopaeans/

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 Post subject: Re: Channeling
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wangwei wrote:
Brand,
Thanks for the channeling post.
What was your impression of LKMJ?


Her personality did not appeal to me. She seemed like a person who thought very highly of themselves, and didn't have much empathy. But I do think she was involved in something genuinely other-worldly.

I bought from her this binder of the complete C readings, which was like a thousand pages of stuff, most of which never made it on to the website. The only other time I've been struck by material like hers was with the Edgar Cayce readings.

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 Post subject: Re: Channeling
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lancifer wrote:
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Reading through Tom Montalk's material at http://www.montalk.net I've noticed quite a similarity in both writing style and ideology when compared with Rudolph Steiner (and the two even have similar facial features). Tom was born in Germany and German is his mother tongue.

What's interesting is Tom's infamous breakup with the Cassiopaen research group in 2003 mirrors Steiner's breakup with the Theosophists. Incidentally, Blavatsky and her husband Orcott not only look like Laura and Ark Jadczyk who headed the Cassiopaen group, but the age difference between Blavatsky and Steiner was the same (down to the year) as between Laura and Tom. Blavatsky and Laura were/are chain smoking channelers/mediums.


Strangely enough, I became friends with Tom and met him in Florida also. I really liked him, he was a bit younger than me but I could tell he was very intelligent.

He was very much into Reich, and while I was in Florida he built a cloudbuster to demonstrate to me, Laura, and others. It worked beyond any of our expectations, not only did it rain but a crazy thunderstorm came up out of nowhere within about half an hour.

Alot of both Laura and Tom's ideas center around the gnostic idea of the adamic and pre-adamic races. Basically the idea that there are two types of humans on the earth today, only one of which has the spark which connects them to the creator. This also ties into AK's idea of many of the humans on earth today being tulpas or thought forms.

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Interesting to C this discussion...and I 2 have noticed the "sym"s between B and LKJ...so it was amusing to see others have picked up on this.

I first started reading the Cassiopaean material and Laura's work back in the late 90s while working in a life-sucking pyramid-organization with close ties to a large "religious" organization interested in the "end of the world" (the company is in Korea, the organization is headquartered in the US). As they moved to France, I was also getting rather busy with some personal issues/changes and left the material alone for a while. Now though, I've just finished reading volumes 1 thru 7 of The Wave...and earlier this year read again the first edition of her hyperdimensional realities book (the one on the "alien" meme).

I've personally found her work very helpful...and I have kept my distance from her inner circle...lol...because I am very wary of the whole "guru" syndrome... One thing I would like to mention though, is that she gives a pretty good set of instructions on how to "work" in a sense, that is not channel-or-Laura-dependent... Even the website(s) work, provides a nice ongoing alternative (though rather ahem..."mainstream") collation of news items from around the world... At the very least, much of her work is an interesting interpretation and synthesis of Gurdjieff-ian ideas, Castaneda, Ibn Arabi, and others (I particularly find a strong resonance with Jacob Boehme)...

Wangwei, I wouldn't put too much weight on the Bridges/other-guy criticism until you read "her" perspective (quite involved) on the issues involved...

Of course, the what-ever-it-is-she's-communicating-with (non-trance-medium), has pointed her in the direction of the RA material as well as the Pleidian material channeled by M...so it only makes sense that the material on points is going to have some salient similarities with that material...

On the idea that she is essentially "talking to herSELF (or subself), well...the Seth channel basically seems to have been aware of that idea and Laura as well, probably drawing on that idea (?) has mentioned as well that "the Cassiopaeans" may be "us" (her clique?) in the future...(but of course with their understanding of the illusory/realsory nature of time I'm not sure what that means)... I suppose ultimately one could play the advaita cause and drop the old "tatvam asi" mantram...but it seems to me (and one of the points I like about L's material) that she spends a lot of time taking the current existence very seriously and the here-and-now as the focus of "work"...(something I find similar to a Mahayana approach)...

Anyway, having just read through much of her stuff...and having taken copious notes...I'd enjoy any building ya'll wanna do on her black on white...

Peace, N.

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 Post subject: Re: Channeling
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BTW, I've also read Tom's little book, and had a few email exchanges with him...and my limited experience in that regard is that he was very friendly and helpful (to me). I have TRIED to read Steiner, but maybe I wasn't ready...I have enjoyed reading some of the material of Terry M. Boardman who works in that "tradition" - his "deep politics" stuff...and found that pretty interesting (and also C.G. Harrison's "The Transcendental Universe")...

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Eos wrote:
Seriously though, why do the channeled messages always seem so...false?

I agree. Are they serving the neoteny project, grooming our domestication by reinforcing our preconceptions and investment in our personal identities?


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